The meeting was called to order at
05:30 p.m. All present included
Chairman Jeff Loris,
Commissioner Doug Clifford,
Commissioner Bob Morris,
Commissioner Dave Robinson,
and Commissioner Pam Gardiol.
|
|
*Notice: You may listen to the live audio feed by going to www.ivins.com under "Upcoming Events." When the meeting is live, it will reflect "In Progress" --Click on the "In Progress: link to listen to the meeting live. https://ivins.granicus.com/GeneratedAgendaViewer.php?view_id=2&event_id=1001
YouTube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUumrxHP3nI
|
Staff Attending: Mike Haycock-Building and Zoning Administrator and Sharon Allen-Deputy City Recorder.
Audience Attending: Brad Osburn, Sally Jensen, Mike Corbett, Jenny Johnson, Chris Haddad, Nancy Martinez, as well as others that did not sign in.
|
B. |
Flag Salute--Commissioner Doug Clifford |
|
C. |
Invocation--Commissioner Doug Clifford |
Mike Haycock stated that Dale Coulam attached a list of discussion points. To highlight, because of water restrictions in the future we have asked to remove golf courses in the table of uses. Remove or clarify carwashes, depending on the type like drive-through or self-wash. We would like to clarify hotel. Right now the definition suggests it should be a typical hotel, but in Ivins it may be appropriate to have a horizontal hotel that is not all one building. The definition should reflect buildings like Sentierre where you have separate buildings rather than a typical three story hotel that is all connected. So we want to look at that definition as well as motels. We can combine the two or leave those definitions separate. Licensing and Bar Establishments, it shows as a Class V Conditional Use Permit. We thought that we should prohibit that in all uses except CLM Commercial Light Manufacturing zone. That changes the Table of Uses in a direction more consistent with the business licensing the State did a few years ago. Same with Sexually Oriented Businesses. Put them in the CLM Commercial Light Manufacturing zone. Chairman Jeff Loris inquired so should we remove golf courses entirely, making them a prohibited use in the future? We are in a drought now, but is this reasoning for water or recreation? We are a destination location because of the beauty of this area. He doesn't see a lot of spaces in our land use that would be feasible. Mike Haycock stated that water is the driving factor for adding that specific use to the agenda. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she is in favor of removing it. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated he would be against it. There is not a lot of places we could put it in anyway, but if we annex property in, it would prohibit it in that area. Water is an issue right now, but it won't be forever. Commissioner Bob Morris stated that he is concerned we are going to remove golf courses but can't remove Sexually Oriented Businesses. It is unnecessary to remove it. Whatever business goes in, they would have to get the water. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that it is unnecessary to remove it. We could have Top Golf or mini golf that would not be an 18 hole resort that would be smaller and may get around the water issue. Water is a problem for everything so singling out golf courses is unnecessary. Chairman Jeff Loris stated we also aren't removing car washes so why would we remove golf courses? Other municipalities just restrict the application of golf courses or car washes, if we put an asterisk that they can only build if they have the water. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated we can't approve it anyway if there is no water. That is a moot point. Don't remove it. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated at this time there is no place to put it. The Table of Uses are not static. At this point since there is no place to put it, taking it out better aligns the uses with what is feasible at this time. Commissioner Bob Morris stated that is hard to put it back in once it has been removed. It is unnecessary to remove it. Chairman Jeff Loris stated it seems the majority wants to leave golf courses in. It will have Public Hearings at both Planning Commission and City Council to be scrutinized again. Moving to carwashes and prohibiting them, do we want any more like Lightfoots to be allowed in the future? Their water ends up in the drainage system. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated they actually recirculate their water with a tank off to the side. There is a State law now that all facilities of that type have to use that recirculation equipment and reuse water. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated that she is glad it is a standard that it is recirculated. Another issue is the noise at Harmon's car wash. So where would that peripheral noise go in neighborhoods with that constant din? She would be in favor of only allowing hand operated facilities rather than automatic ones. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated the noise primarily comes off the vacuums and we have noise limits on any property. We may get to a point we can't wash our cars at all at home so we may want one. Commissioner Bob Morris stated he doesn't want to make everyone go to Santa Clara to wash their car, but the issue is where would we allow it to go. If we are responsible about that we could keep it here in our community, benefit from the tax revenue and the convenience. Mike Haycock stated that the two zones carwashes are allowed in are C-1 and CLM, and those are Class IV Conditional Use Permits. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that the definition of carwash is a structure with machine or hand operated facilities used principally for the cleaning, washing, polishing or waxing of motor vehicles. A facility of this type may be able to accommodate more than one vehicle at the same time. Commissioner Bob Morris stated that the definition seems good. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated they could add conditions to it, like the recirculating water, noise system or decibel level. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she appreciates the comment about decibel level but even legislating that level it can still be invasive on a neighborhood so we would want to monitor that closely. Do we have the ability to do that and have it be within the law? Commissioner Dave Robinson stated that he owned a race track and neighbors were concerned about the noise so the City limited the time of day when we could operate. We have construction and all kinds of noise that goes on during the day. In the evening it could have been a nuisance. Commissioner Bob Morris inquired what if we got rid of C-1? Mike Haycock stated there is only one CLM district out by Kayenta. Maybe require a buffer between existing residential for noise control. Maybe a certain distance away, like we do for schools and churches. He will look into the distance and restrictions regarding noise and light. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that this is sounding more like a noise issue rather than a water issue because of the recirculation requirements given by the State. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she would encourage the research regarding the buffer be the most outer limits on what is invasive, because those requirements are not always realistic. Let's look at that thoroughly and find out what the options are. Chairman Jeff Loris stated regarding clarifying the definition of hotels like Sentierre so we would allow horizontal single level buildings, modularly separated structures. Mike Haycock stated that the part that was not consistent was through a common entrance, lobby or hallway to four or more guestrooms. Sentierre doesn't have a lobby and it is not the primary entrance. Chairman Jeff Loris inquired can we strike that? Commissioner Bob Morris stated that it should say hotel building(s) and make it plural. Strike common entrance and he doesn't know if we should limit it but leave it at four or more guestrooms, otherwise it is just a short-term rental. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated this is the same type of thing as the RV park with those cabins to rent. It is written under the RV but it is similar. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated that looking at resorts we already have like Movara Villas that has external single units, Red Mountain Resort and Black Desert Resort is planning on doing that as well. We are already down that road and it has not been an issue. Why are we trying to change it? Commissioner Bob Morris stated we are just changing the definition to match the kind of hotels we have. Chairman Jeff Loris stated it would be permitted non-conforming and we want them to be permitted and conforming so we are changing the verbiage to match the uses allowed to be consistent. If we put building(s), making it plural offering temporary lodging or overnight accommodations for four or more guestrooms. Strike access provided through a common entrance, lobby or hallway. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated that however we define this needs to be aligned with the view priority in the General Plan and the site plan aligns with the use of the land so they are not sprawling. Chairman Jeff Loris stated yes that is why we rely heavily on TRC for that to make sure those site plans and preliminary plans are taken care of. Commissioner Bob Morris stated they have to go in an area where hotels are allowed. They can't buy five homes in an area and start renting them out and call it a hotel. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that they also have to have a Class V Conditional Use Permit and go before Public Hearings before us as well as City Council. Item 4 states that in 2018 entities holding a dining club alcohol license were required to identify themselves as either a full service restaurant or a bar establishment. We need to add bar establishment as a type of license issued by the State that requires City consent. Full service restaurants already existed. Bar establishment is a recognized use/license by the State we should add bar establishment to the table of uses as shown as a Class V Conditional Use Permit only in the CLM Commercial Light Manufacturing zoning District and prohibited in all other zoning districts. He inquired why in CLM and not C-1? Mike Haycock stated he is not sure. If it is something you would like to do, we can discuss it. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that the City has C-1 close to church and Hwy 91. We wouldn't like a bar there. There is some by Rocky Vista University which might be nicer for the college students, although they are trying to study for medical exams. Commissioner Dave Robinson inquired are we blending restaurant with bar use? Mike Haycock stated this is just specific to bars that serve alcohol. State requirements for both we want to be consistent with their licensing requirements. We wanted to place bars in a zone and be specific in the table of uses. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated it looked like we are trying to lump them together as he reads it. We have a restaurant spot open in Canyon Crossing eventually and he would assume they may want to have an alcohol license. Commissioner Bob Morris stated we are trying to isolate it by putting it in Commercial Light Manufacturing. Commissioner Pam Gardiol wherever it goes a key element is buffering and hours of operation as it significantly impacts neighborhoods. Closure time for some bars is 2 a.m. and those may be limited to State law. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that the only two places we have CLM is in Kayenta near Fire Lake Park adjacent to the storage units, and a small piece at Red Mountain Elementary so we are restricting based on the zone. Commissioner Dave Robinson inquired if Black Desert Resort has plans to put a bar in? Mike Haycock stated that Black Desert Resort has a combination of uses and have already gotten their permissions so it should not affect what they are allowed to do in the hotel and is in the Development Agreement and in their Conditional Use Permit. Commissioner Bob Morris stated he is all for making it difficult to put a bar in a neighborhood. He would suggest isolate it out to a remote place, but then again he doesn't drink. Commissioner Pam Gardiol inquired what is the impact on neighborhoods and daily life? Chairman Jeff Loris stated there is one more area down by Mojave Mesa by Ryders garage. The developer of that area probably will not file for a alcohol license in his neighborhood. He has no problem adding that to commercial light manufacturing. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated there is heavy regulation with the State. It won't be in residential near a school or a church. There is a lot of restrictions. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated this is only for bars, not restaurants. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated that State law does little to prevent the intrusion into neighborhoods. We need to be careful where we put it. She took the zoning map and drove Ivins. Going out by Ryders and imagining a placement of a bar there that is open until 2 am could create lots of business for our police officers. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that Sexually Oriented Businesses must have a zoning district where it would be allowed as a Conditional Use Permit under the business licensing chapter of City Code. A Sexually Oriented Business is only allowed in Commercial Light Manufacturing district but should also reflect that in the table of uses that it is a Class V Conditional Use Permit only in the Commercial Light Manufacturing zoning district, and prohibited in all other districts. It just needs to be changed. Mike Haycock stated it has no zoning designation and so we would add a Class V Conditional Use Permit under the Commercial Light Manufacturing zone only. Commissioner Bob Morris inquired do we have to do that? We can't prohibit it? The State says you have to provide it. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she would say the same here, and that it needs buffering and to be monitored closely. Are people coming and going in the middle of the night? Commissioner Doug Clifford stated hours of operation are restricted at the State level. It would be police enforcement. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that they also need to come to City Council and Planning Commission for Public Hearing as well, stipulated in a Conditional Use Permit.
Chairman Jeff Loris stated he and Commissioner Pam Gardiol looked at traffic flow through Ivins and what has changed with the map as it was done several years ago. Major collectors that come through Ivins is Center Street and turns into a major arterial as it comes past 200 East and has moved from 750 West through changes in the Transportation Master Plan to 600 on the south and Kwavasa on the North. The land use shows a large commercial bubble north of that, closer to Kayenta. That would be similar to the Tuacahn roundabout where Canyon Crossings is. Commercial is around that area and it is feasible that we have a commercial pocket on 600 West and Center Street. It could be more centered around where traffic would be. There is no commercial shown around this point on this map. It is up to the north a bit more. It seems like it would happen around the intersection. So Tuacahn and that roundabout, where Rocky Vista University is, and down south by Ryders. We talked about move the commercial further south where it is more feasible and pull the bubble further down South. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated he agrees. That makes sense. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that it would help with light pollution out in Kayenta and it is still owned by the same owner. Mike Haycock stated that one thing he has noticed is that holding zones create scatter based on land for sale. It would be nice to buffer those areas. Each of those areas already has some residential there. Commissioner Bob Morris stated that he still just wants the asterisk. We can't change it from agricultural until the land owner wants to quit farming. What do we do to a land owner when we change it to residential or commercial? Which would be more lucrative for them? Do we deny them their rights to a better sale? Mike Haycock stated that it would be nice to have corridors so it is more organized. We can't tell someone this is what you are going to sell your property for, but we can say what type of uses we would like to see there and change it on the land use map. It doesn't force their sale and it may change or make their property values more or less attractive. If you don't you will have exactly what you have now. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated so we would be designating what our designed use would be, not necessarily changing the zoning in that area. Mike Haycock stated yes and we can still have the asterisk. We aren't changing any zones and we still have the misnomer out there that what a property is labeled is what it will be. We need to change the advertising. Real estate agents need to look at the land use plan when they are selling a property, not just the zoning map. The land use map tells the story of what direction we are headed. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that as we have seen applications come through the money makers seem to be the higher the density the more homes they can sell per sq ft. As we look at the flow through town when the Parkway came through that opened up Santa Clara and St George to come through Ivins. Resort Commercial has been used mostly by Black Desert Resort and west of the roundabout that is not developed by Tuacahn wash is Resort Commercial and fits with Resort Mixed Use and that matches up as we come down Center Street. Going up 200 East you come to the commercial areas that are adjacent to the trailer homes and were made Commercial because they were existing situations with Lightfoots, the restaurant and post office. 200 West has a small piece where Troy built his shop so that was also pre-existing. There are the storage units on Main Street but that is not really the main corridor for our City. 200 East and 200 West are high usage, as well as 600 West. 400 is quite busy but has a few stop signs to slow traffic down. The Transportation Master Plan shows a lot of use coming through Kwavasa. C-1 at end of town across from the RV resort is also designated. As we look at how the City is set up, you can see where the traffic and people go. What we need to look at is the far exterior bookends. Black Desert Resort takes up most of east side. There is a small piece by Red Mountain Spa and Sentierre and Tuacahn is taken care of. Really the west side and what may be annexed in to the west. We need to look at bubbles of commercial elements and non-commercial elements on the west side and what kind of flow will happen. Commissioner Dave Robinson commercial property would be really good in that area because it is bordering the water. He assumes they will have entertainment, like paddleboards, etc. Could be eateries or paddle board rentals. He thinks it makes perfect sense. Chairman Jeff Loris stated the zoning for that area is an RA-1 holding zone. RE-20 to the southwest that has already been through application and to the west is RA-1 holding pattern. They are low density but there is a potential for change as it is just a holding pattern. It seems like a feasible place if we were to move those bubbles. Mike Haycock stated the Western Corridor affects the southern end. Chairman Jeff Loris stated it comes from the Santa Clara River and cuts through north of the community park and there is farm that the corridor sits on the south end next to. It is all agriculture use there right now. There is a planned roundabout on 200 East and would be an excellent place for commercial. Mike Haycock stated we have received an application for townhomes on 800 South and Main Street. You are buffering those townhomes with a Medium Density area. Chairman Jeff Loris stated they had an overlay on it for Short-Term Rental and the large triangle that is a more High Density use there. Ties in with the use of that area. Mike Haycock stated that buffers the Medium Density from Commercial. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that the Corridor passes through Santa Clara and passes north again through the Black Desert Resort area and through the SITLA land and back through Black Desert Resort. Mike Haycock stated there is application coming from Rize-Up who is looking at the SITLA land and they have buffering and geological features they are balancing. It looks to be compliant with the Master Plan. That application is coming to move from the holding zone to what is consistent with the land use plan. There may be some talk about changing buffer areas a bit. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated that most of that road goes through Black Desert Resort. Chairman Jeff Loris stated and SITLA. It follows the wash. Resort Mixed Use is where there will be a commercial application there. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that is organic growth. Chairman Jeff Loris stated there is a good portion of open space that was required to stay open for the golf course and the lava flow. Mike Haycock stated we have plenty of commercial zones. Leading in to the south, make it consistent to maintain the uses that are already planned there. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that a comment was made about congregating our commercial, but he thinks distributing commercial fits the nature of Ivins more. We don't want a large shopping center somewhere. We are looking for small boutique style shops scattered around the community to provide proximity to those homes. Shotgun may be what we want. Mike Haycock stated one thing we don't have is a general mixed use, where you can have businesses below a one or two-story apartment complex. May want to look at adding that as a walkabout community. If you put all your apartments together they are not usually successful. If you scatter High Density it is usually more successful. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that down south next to the highway we have a lot of High Density with Red Mountain Vista Townhomes, Sage Villas, Movara Villas and Azalea Townhomes. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated that regarding the annex area, he is thinking about what zones would go in. The area where the corridor is would give us some beautiful commercial and then do homes up closer to the ridge. He knows that is out of range for awhile but need to be thinking about it. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that 400 West loops around as a minor arterial and it is also a gathering point. Mike Haycock stated that he will draw up some corridors and drop that one commercial bubble down to 400. Do you want to be specific on some buffers as we do that? We will put a map together and see if what we draw meets what you want. He inquired if there was any specific size acreage selected or just the two corner R-1 pieces at the end of Center Street? Commissioner Dave Robinson stated that the 750 West loop has an RA-1 to the north and the southwest and directly south is RE-20, and RA-15 to the northwest. So just move that bubble down. Mike Haycock will bring back those changes.
Mike Haycock stated he went one direction and will now respectfully listen to the Commission's opinion. Enforcement is probably the most difficult ordinance he's ever enforced but it shows the interest of the community and that is important to them and to the City of Ivins. It is totally in your court to tell me what you want this to look like so he can communicate that to the City Council. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated while being as neutral as possible and doing research to understand, a couple issues came to mind. There has been a gap in applying this ordinance. Is there a precedence that we can't enforce the ordinance we have? Mike Haycock stated if there is a development agreement or not, it makes it hard to tell a contractor he can't have it but the other can. When it is a competition to sell houses and white sells, we are affecting the market. It is not a consistency in enforcement or interpreting the ordinance, but maybe there has been a difference of what small amounts have been as to what he thinks small amounts are. When you look at a building and say it fits in the community, but it may not to someone else. Consistency wasn't a major part of it, but there is an inconsistency in interpretation. Commissioner Pam Gardiol inquired if that inconsistency however small it may be compromise our ability to enforce what we have now, or what is created? Mike Haycock stated no. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she tends to go back to see the context in which a decision is being made. She read Chapter 19 Site Plan and Building Design Requirements. Under Purpose it reads the desert setting of the city is both a spectacular and fragile environment. It is worthy of preservation and requires careful stewardship. The magnificent setting of the City requires that all uses and buildings complement and be in harmony with the natural environment. The purpose of this chapter is to promote a level of building and site design consistency, sensitivity to the natural environment of the City, and to protect and promote the unique community identity of the City. That was the thing that resonated with her the most is the unique community identity. As she has read the General Plan under 16.19.103 Building Design Requirements in unique and building design requirements. Structures To Blend With the Environment: It is the vision of the City that all buildings and their associated facilities and improvements will blend with the forms, colors and textures of the city's desert setting. The City encourages creative and varied architecture reflecting its desert character, avoiding extremes and uncharacteristic themes, styles and color. The goal is for all manmade structures to blend harmoniously with the natural environment. If this is the intent of this chapter, then we align our decision with what is in the chapter or table this until we have the General Plan neighborhood meetings and gather input from citizens and see if they feel this is still the intent of the community or is it time to redefine this wording in either this chapter or the General Plan? It is premature for the Commission to act on this at this point. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated we are now talking about Light Reflective Value generally, not just a trim. It is supposed to blend with our community and that is great, but we put this Light Reflective Value as if that is going to some way make that happen. If you drive through the west side of Ivins and Padre Canyon area is all white sandstone. A few feet further is black lava rock. What are we trying to blend with? There should not be a restriction on color. He understands we don't want something that looks completely out of place, but Light Reflective Value allows for all colors he wouldn't want on his house. State law says we cannot restrict it. What we have done was made an end run as a City and made them sign a development agreement to abide by our colors. He thinks that is an overreach and Light Reflective Value is a ridiculous restriction that needs to be removed. There are some subdivisions that don't even come close to meeting Light Reflective Value that are gorgeous and have no issues. There were some homes before the agreement that were allowed to be built outside of the Light Reflective Value and wasn't being pushed hard. They are scattered out. Trying to put the hammer down now is just overreach by us and needs to be done away with. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that Development agreements are put forward as recommendations as a favor to the City to comply with Light Reflective Value. It is not a defining element on whether the City will allow a subdivision or not. They can stipulate to it or not, but it is not a hostage situation. Developers have a chance to deny or agree to it. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated that a developer will sign anything because they have money on the line and they will do what they have to, to get their development done. Commissioner Bob Morris stated that we are making their lives miserable. The requirements are very detailed. He is a property rights guy. He disagrees with Light Reflective Value because it is a bad metric. He has faith in developers that the colors he uses will make their build more valuable. We currently have a modern trend with roofstyles and colors. Things change. His son was getting his home restuccoed and according to Light Reflective Value he wasn't in compliance. We have had people taking rocks off the front of houses and having to change because of this Light Reflective Value ordinance. We are not a Homeowners Association. This is unnecessary and he would like to see it disappear. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that we skirted around this and he knew it would come back. He agrees with the comments that are being made. He googled other cities color restrictions or legislation and found almost nothing. There is not a major city in the US that has a color code to conform to. However, cities do tend to have a color. Not through legality or laws, but through environment and building materials they have to use. It becomes a defacto standard for trying to blend. That is what we say in the General Plan is we want it to blend in. It would be nice to have matching colors, but he doesn't think we can restrict it. The State has made it pretty clear but we tried to take a back door to keep it. If someone wants a restricted neighborhood where are the homes are similar in color and shape, go to an HOA and they will have a color palette. Light Reflective Value is used by designers. We cannot legislate it or force it. The State told us we can't do it. The only way we are getting around it is with development agreements. We are wearing out our inspectors and making a lot of people mad for no real reason. Chairman Jeff Loris stated that as we all feel strongly about Light Reflective Value it is really dependent on the public and have the City Council there. They are really who pushed Light Reflective Value through. Our Commission seated here is set against this, but we are open to get input from the community and serve to make this a beautiful area. He thinks we should table this. Mike Haycock stated we could see where the State legislature heads this year and sometimes the homebuilders association throws things in last minute. We can talk to the public about land use and Light Reflective Value and we will also have a Public Hearing on this as well. Commissioner Dave Robinson stated that in addition to this is landscaping. The house next to mine is white and mine is black. He doesn't care what landscaping they have over there. We shouldn't regulate that either. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that we have people hanging out there and trying to enforce something we don't believe in, so maybe put it back on as a Public Hearing to do away with it two weeks from now. Mike Haycock stated we would have a Public Hearing and have the ordinance deleting the Light Reflective Value section. It is not a rush though. We have come to an understanding with the contractors just through time. We still have contractors coming in that we are having to tell them that the colors they are putting on are not what they submitted. We are enforcing it and it is a bit of a battle but we don't want to rush through and make a hasty decision on it. This community has talked about this several times. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated her concern on public input on something this controversial she was thinking as we have community meetings, not just a public hearing, and find out how people feel. She is hoping we can hold them throughout the City as we do the General Plan. If we are proactive in how we are reaching out as we gather that input we will have a better understanding how the community feels about Light Reflective Value. Commissioner Bob Morris stated that he remembers the dismay the painting professional had. There are a lot of people like me that don't like being told what they can and can't do with their own property. Let HOA's handle this, that's great. A neighbor will tell on them and they'll get fined or get a lawyer. Developers are of course going to pick colors that are going to sell and enhance the value of what they are trying to market. There are so many of us though that just want to feel like we own our home, not just paying property tax and letting the City tell us what we can do on our own property. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that in our effort to chuck out the baggage we don't throw out the General Plan because it is still valid in its desire to have an overall theme for our City. We need to emphasize that. Most people want to blend in but not everyone and that's okay. We are not trying to change the General Plan but we need to address this from the General Plan standpoint and we don't want to have to enforce these details. Mike Haycock stated that he does not have an opinion in this so if there are three that want it on the agenda we can, or take it to public comment or hold it until after Legislature. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she would like to wait for the input process from the community on the General Plan neighborhood meetings. Commissioner Dave Robinson would like to vote at the next meeting Public Hearing. Commissioner Bob Morris stated he would vote for a Public Hearing. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated he would like to look at the Public Hearing as input. Go ahead and put it on the agenda.
Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated on Page 4 the vote to table the amendment to chapter 16 she voted nay.
MOTION: Commissioner Bob Morris moved to approve the Ivins City Planning Commission Meeting Minutes for February 1, 2022, as amended.
SECOND: Commissioner Dave Robinson
VOTE: The motion carried unanimously.
| Chairman Jeff Loris |
AYE |
| Commissioner Doug Clifford |
AYE |
| Commissioner Bob Morris |
AYE |
| Commissioner Dave Robinson |
AYE |
| Commissioner Pam Gardiol |
AYE |