Dale Coulam stated that the narrative gives the various identities of professionals involved in this project. The location is approximately 400 South and this commercial portion is the east side of the wash and the east side of Hamblin Parkway, formerly known as the Western Corridor. It is approximately 40 acres and is zoned Resort Commercial. There are 393 proposed units. The number of hotel buildings is 35. There are 2-3 story tri-plex townhomes: 17 buildings, 51 units and 2300-4000 sq ft, and 2-3 story motorcourt: 9 buildings and 180 units. Single family range is 1000 to 1700 sq ft. Three story elevator flats: 9 buildings 162 units, 1000 to 1800 sq ft. The heights of these buildings are 35 feet or less as required by the zoning ordinance. The amenities include the central recreation amenity, model park, lava grotto/overlook park and activity park. There will be an interconnected trail walkway system. TRC did prepare a draft of some conditions. What is listed as standard conditions we have included on almost all commercial projects to comply with our ordinances and standard specifications. It points out to the developer what they need to be mindful of as they complete the project. Conditions that are specific to the project include incorporating the presentation materials submitted with the application for a Conditional Use Permit and that is what is expected to be developed. They are held to that and need to amend if that changes. This portion of the property was found to be in compliance with sensitive lands. There is lava on this side of the property but not more being disturbed than what is allowed. The 400 South connection to the Western Corridor and all underlying utilities will be constructed with Phase One. A 12 inch pipeline to be constructed across the project to connect to Cordero Drive. If this project needs the pipeline to be installed prior to the Black Desert Resort needing the pipeline in order to obtain Certificates of Occupancy, then this project will be responsible to put in those needed portions of the pipeline. The Hamblin Parkway shall be constructed with a minimum of 36 feet of asphalt roadway width to accommodate two 12-foot lanes and two 6-foot shoulders for bike lanes. Right-of-way shall be 111 feet wide to accommodate a future five-lane facility and 21-foot-wide landscape buffers. The project shall also install curb and gutter on the east/south side of the parkway. On the west/north side of the parkway the drainage facility shall be an armored drainage channel or curb and gutter. Left hand and right hand 12-foot-wide turn lanes shall be provided at all intersections which will require additional widening. Ten foot wide shared use paths shall be provided on both sides of the parkway. The developer shall provide the landscape buffer as required by City codes. Offsite extension of Hamblin Parkway. The Black Desert Resort shall excavate the Hamblin Parkway where it is located on their project property, prepare subgrades, and deliver and place all roadbase in preparation for this extension. The Retreat at Snow Canyon shall make all additional improvements to extend the roadway to the location where Black Desert Resort ends its required improvements to create a full connection to Snow Canyon Parkway including ten-foot-wide shared use paths and landscaping. The roundabout at 400 South and Hamblin Parkway shall be constructed as part of this project. Ivins City will credit Streets impact fees towards the project based on the difference in cost to construct the roundabout versus a standard intersection that would be needed to serve the project and community needs upon completion. The roundabout design will accommodate the potential for the Hamblin Parkway to widen to a five-lane facility without any curb relocations. Roundabout at Hamblin Parkway and Red Mountain Drive shall be constructed as part of this project. Ivins City will credit Streets impact fees towards the project based on the difference in cost to construct the roundabout versus a standard intersection that would be needed to serve the project and community needs upon completion. The roundabout design will accommodate the potential for the Hamblin Parkway to widen to a five-lane facility without any curb relocations. No mass grading of the Project site will be allowed. Grading shall be contained within each phase to the maximum extent reasonably possible. Any additional disturbance that is needed by a phase under construction outside of the phase lines shall be restored and revegetated immediately (commenced within 20 days) after construction activities cease. That may need negotiating further as they meet with the City Engineer. All exterior lighting to be “Night Sky Compliant”, meeting City’s current lighting ordinance and compliant with IBC requirements for minimum foot candles in a parking lot. Outdoor lights shall be reduced/dimmed after midnight to only security lighting. The installation of utilities within the Project shall be addressed in the construction plans. Any HVAC equipment on building roof tops shall be screened from view from public streets by parapets or approved mechanical screening compatible with the building architecture. Financial Security/Backing for the Project. In order to mitigate possible adverse consequences of a project this size, type and critical location, and as a condition to issuance of the building permits for each phase of development, the applicant shall submit written evidence to the City that it has the financial resources, or commercially reasonable and reliable commitments from third-party lenders and investors to provide such resources, sufficient to pay the costs of constructing such phase of the project. Such evidence may include some or all of the following: construction/development loan commitments, agreements to provide equity capital for the project, written confirmation of Owner’s financial resources designated for development of the Project, bonding commitments, letters of credit, non-refundable deposits from unit purchasers, and similar items. At the option of the City Council, the responsibility to review and approve the sufficiency of financial resources may be assigned to an employee or advisor to the City that is acceptable to the City Council and to the Applicant, provided that in such event the Applicant shall have the right to appeal the decision of such person to the City Council. In connection with such review the Applicant shall not be required to submit financial information determined by Applicant to be proprietary or confidential. This requirement to provide financial assurances shall apply not only to Applicant, but to any other person or entity that may acquire the Property from Owner in the future and step into the legal position of the Owner as the developer of the Project. Prior to the issuance of any building permits, all building elevations shall be submitted to the Planning Commission for review and approval for compliance with the Ivins City Building Design Guidelines. Some of those applicants are here. Jerry Miyahara stated this is the Conditional Use Permit on the east side of Hamblin Parkway but we also have the Preliminary Plan as a discussion item later in the agenda. His key points are that this project has been evolving significantly over the years and the west side does not require a Conditional Use Permit. City Council has requested further review of the sensitive lands ordinance and we will process this other area when there is a resolution of the ridgeline/rock outcropping. We have heard and incorporated feedback from the community, neighbors, City staff and officials. With the land use designation of Resort Mixed-Use our vision has been to have a variety of residential and commercial targeting resort visitors and primary and secondary homeowners with strong and attractive architecture and creative, functional floorplans. They are sensitive to satisfy housing needs of the City and sensitive to adjacent neighbors while respecting the land by preserving areas of natural open space, lava and vistas and the world-class surrounding ridgelines. Since they first held neighborhood meetings in the first quarter of 2022, mortgage rates have gone from 3% to 7%. Through that time, the feedback has been to adjust to lower price points with smaller units to create better affordability. This is not affordable housing. But smaller is a lower price points and better affordability. We reduced unit sizes within the building envelope of the motorcourt and nine of each of those buildings. We are starting units at 1000 sq ft and the reduction in those unit sizes and resulting increase in unit counts is still within the same building footprint. The calculation of open space remains at only 45% of the total Resort Commercial area. This does not produce a material improvement in the economics of the project. The amount of sellable square footage within the building footprint is unchanged and is solely driven to adjust to current market conditions. On the east resort side on the northern edge is our main amenity and the focus is to create best-in-class entertainment, health and wellness, and physical and social activities for visitors at The Retreat. There will be resort pools, lap pools, splash pads, pickleball courts, children play areas, synthetic areas, public trails and open spaces throughout the community. There is about 500,000 lineal feet of trails, sidewalks and cart paths ultimately connecting to areas within the city and the Black Desert Resort public trails. The linear open space and Tuacahn Wash is about 17.50 acres that will be accessible to the public for exploring, hiking, biking with tremendous views of the surrounding mountains and ridgelines. There will be opportunities for educational kiosks and displays to describe the history of the land. Traffic had an impact study from Horrocks and it projects that only 5% of new trips per day created by this project will occur at 400 South. The balance of the trips will be dispersed through Hamblin Parkway to Snow Canyon to the north and Hamblin Parkway to Red Mountain to the south. Based on industry standard level of service criteria the new trips generated by the project does not cause any neighboring mitigation measures. The project will create a new important east/west connection through Ivins City. This will provide a new direct route for existing neighborhoods southwest of the project and reduce the trip counts through Puerto Drive, Mesa Vista Drive and Center Street. Black Desert Resort has a development agreement obligation on their section of Hamblin Parkway from Snow Canyon to the SITLA property line, and they anticipate completing their work by March 2024. The construction access plan for Red Mountain to the south or Hamblin Parkway from Snow Canyon to the north and the current road base pavement on Red Mountain can accommodate construction traffic to the site today. We don't control the completion of Red Mountain to the south but we will coordinate with that timing. Parking is a hot topic and we are at 158% above the parking spaces required by code section 16.20.111 and we feel those code requirements are inadequate so we went above bringing our total parking spaces ratio to 2.3 count. Wayne Rogers with AGEC has analyzed 36 borings created throughout the site along with 13 test pits. Those studies show that there are portions of the site that have expansive soils and hard bedrock conditions that are typical of this area. The engineering solutions for these conditions are commonly used and technically feasible to recommend this development plan. Economic benefits and fiscal impacts to the budget are important. We had an economic impact analysis done by Urban and Main projected over 25 years forecast period that shows 26.3 million dollars to Ivins City for property, sales and tourism tax against 9 million in new fiscal expenses to the City for general public safety and public works, for a net positive fiscal impact of 16.6 million dollars. Only property tax allocated to Ivins is included in that. In addition, other regional entities receiving new property tax revenues are forecasted at 71.8 million to the public school system, 11.1 million to the County, and 5.8 million to the Washington County Water Conservancy District. The Washington County Water Conservancy District controls the process to grant the rights to water. We understand the risks of water availability. We will comply fully with City codes relevant to conservation measures. The west residential area our preliminary plan reflects no pools or natural grass and in the eat resort area, only 2.2% of the total area will be pools or natural grass, when up to 8% is allowed. On public safety and crime in short-term rentals he asked Captain Rich Rodgers for call data that tracks short-term rental activity locally. In 2022 and 2023 to-date there have been a total of 10,080 calls to the Ivins/Santa Clara Police Department. of those, the number of calls recorded in the short-term rental communities in both Ivins and Santa Clara was 55. That represents one-half of one percent of call activity in both cities for the last two years. Regarding sensitive lands, we are going through the process on the ridgeline/rock outcropping, but on these preliminary plans being presented on this agenda, all sensitive lands issues have been approved by the Sensitive Lands Committee and the Planning Commission. This project has evolved significantly and many of those changes are due to community feedback. On the west side, there is a transition zone matching existing neighborhoods. The interior of the west side within the RM zone could have been stacked considerably more units in density and instead they chose to step them down smaller single family detached lots. The Resort Commercial zone on the east resort side did exactly what City code intended it to do. Short-Term Rental Overlays, not Resort Commercial zones, create significant potential conflicts as you mix visitors with full or part-time residents. The Resort Commercial zone has created an insightful planning strategy by consolidating the unique conditions of a short-term rental product and isolation. Between the golf course and Hamblin Parkway and the Tuacahn Wash our Resort Commercial zone is an island and any potential issues are isolated from existing neighborhoods. Through an arduous but refining process, we have arrived at a balanced plan with Ivins City that satisfies key General Plan goals and is consistent with the City's Resort Mixed-Use land plan vision and is sensitive to adjacent neighborhoods. It is environmentally sustainable and is respectful of the land and its valuable features. We have our consultants and team here to answer any questions. Chairman Dave Robinson inquired if the road from Pioneer Parkway is complete to use as an access now? Jerry Miyahara stated yes and Black Desert Resort is using it as their construction access already. Chairman Dave Robinson inquired if the eastern portion are sold individually. Are those homeowners allowed to reside in them? Jerry Miyahara stated that they are individually owned units that have the option to put into the short-term nightly rental pool if they choose. Chairman Dave Robinson opened the Public Hearing. Michael Cook stated he lives on Padre Canyon Drive and he has not had much time to review this. The engineering stamp was 11 days ago. He hasn't had much time to digest this. He would recommend a little more time to look at this. What will the housing prices be? Black Desert Resort has a significant anchoring effect. This is different and these people aren't anchored here like they will in Black Desert Resort. Is the best-in-class entertainment splash pads? How does the Black Desert Resort public trails mix in here? You say there is only 5% traffic by your consultant and then said it creates an important east/west connection. Those statements are conflicting. AGEC borings study were a couple decades old. 16.6 million over 25 years, isn't that much. Police calls are based on current short-term rental numbers in the City. What is the projected number of short-term rentals in the City? It is his understanding there are already 1700 approved. Another 400 more here. You stated you weren't mixing full-time resident and rentals but it is an option to reside in or rent them. You will have full-time residents right next to a rental. How will that be managed? Jeff Devore inquired if there was going to be a new traffic light? Sharon Barton stated she lives on Mesa Vista Drive and her question is about density. If we go back to 7/5/22 the stated density across Resort Mixed-Use was 4-7.5 but today that number has greatly increased. Last September a motion was passed by Councilmember Adel Murphy to approve Ordinance 2022-08 a zone amendment for the application and comprehensive map at Puerto Drive and 400 South based on the transitionary zoning, the added RM zoning and the reduction of short-term rentals. We are headed in the other direction. An extra 400 units is 1200 vehicles or people in that small piece of property. The General Plan states that we need to be responsible for this land for future generations and we owe them more consideration before approving this Conditional Use Permit. CJ Koharcheck wants to advocate off 600 South to be the access point for all construction and construction traffic. That property is a straight flat line and has been designated for the Western Corridor for years. 400 South is a major dynamite site for those sandstone ridges. We are looking at things people can expect like changes to their infrastructure. None of those homes were built expecting dynamite. If construction vehicles go from 400 South it will be difficult to calm Puerto Drive down as the minor collector it was designed to be with blind curves, walkers, community mailboxes, bicyclists and children's safety. Think about the weight of a loaded dump truck and the stopping distance required even going 25 mph. Vehicles are more likely to go south to Pioneer Parkway or Hwy 91 so the City needs to figure out how to use the 600 South portion of Hamblin Parkway. Lisa Ganz stated she lives at west Bickmore. After opposition from residents, and discrepancy in the validity of the vote, September 1, 2022 Councilmembers Lance Anderson, Adel Murphy and Jenny Johnson voted to approve a zone change request on the 113 acres. At that meeting, the applicant presented a project plan and we have never seen a revised map. Within that plan they said 525-575 units and the Resort Commercial area was planned for 6.5 to 7.5 dwellings units per gross acre which would be 257 to 297 short-term rentals. Last March their concept plan at Council was changed to 457 units with 243 short-term rentals and now we are at 603 units and 363 short-term rentals. That is a 62% increase from the last plan. At that September meeting Councilmember Mike Scott presented a Conditional Use Permit request for approving the zone for the developer and she doesn't see any of those items addressed in the plan and the Resort Mixed-Use buffer is missing from the overall plan. It feels like a bait and switch on what was originally planned and what City Council approved. Fred Castagne stated there were no comments on Zoom. Cheyne McDonald stated he lives at 100 West and stays interested in the things at hand so he did some research. It is important to understand that this project is consistent with the General Plan even the current one being worked. It states the following businesses that are consistent with characteristics like supporting our existing resort hotels, shops, restaurants, art galleries and studios. This project will support all those businesses. Black Desert Resort. Tuachan. The Kayenta Arts Foundation. Keep that in mind. It is consistent with the land use, the General Plan and unanimously approved by the Sensitive Lands Committee on this portion and it is the same footprint. It did not get larger. It is sad that we have had a frivolous lawsuit come forward. That failed. Now it has gone to the Utah Supreme Court and he believes it will fail there too. We are obligated when projects are consistent and meet our ordinances to approve it. Becky Liebert stated she lives on Bighorn Way. She wanted clarification on where Hamblin Parkway was because she had never heard of it. She also can't see how 600 South would be a straight shot through there. Hearing no further comments, Chairman Dave Robinson closed the Public Hearing.
Dale Coulam stated this is an administrative decision, not legislative. A public hearing has remained for Class IV and V Conditional Use Permits. It is not required by statute but a minimum notice of 10 days is required for any public hearing. That has been complied with. Otherwise it is 24-hour notice for a meeting. Chairman Dave Robinson stated he is not going into price point. The number of nightly rentals in the community he really can't attest to that. The difference of those who can remain in their units and which are rented is that some are excluded completely from the pool. Jerry Miyahara stated the area west of Hamblin Parkway are not short-term rentals and everything on the east it is allowed. If they want to choose to live there full-time they have that right. The concept is that they are buying into a zone they know is short-term rental. They can choose but they know they are buying into a short-term rental area. The yellow lots are 37k sq ft lots. Those upper lots are 7,500 sq ft lots and the next layer is 45 by 85 ft deep lots and the intersection are alley-loaded, small, single-family detached lots. Chairman Dave Robinson stated those are not a part of the nightly rentals as a clarification. There are currently 1043 nightly rentals in Ivins approved so far. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated those police calls were on the Santa Clara rentals as well. 600 South is Santa Clara's responsibility to build that. Black Desert Resort is currently using that as their access. That is what they have deemed as their construction access. There will not be construction traffic coming up 400 South. Hamblin Parkway is the Western Corridor that makes a giant loop around the County and that is our portion. They are using existing roads that are designed for that traffic. There is no traffic light in Ivins. Dale Coulam stated that Pioneer Parkway is well into Santa Clara. Matt Ence works with Santa Clara City and represents EWD, LLC. Black Desert Resort ultimately will have access south into Santa Clara, and other developers are working on Red Mountain Drive access to Pioneer Parkway, those developers are required to install a traffic light at that four-way intersection. That does not involve Ivins at all. Dale Coulam stated that Jerry Miyahara explained in his presentation about the number of short-term rentals and units for this project has increased due to market conditions. Commissioner Pam Gardiol inquired if there were any other issues that Jerry Miyahara was taking notes for that he may have answers to respond to? Chairman Dave Robinson inquired if she had specific questions for him to answer? Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she does not. Commissioner Perry Brown inquired where the extra parking is? Are they at each unit? Jerry Miyahara stated they designed this community to not have large parking lots or exposed parking garages so we have the elevator flat and motorcourt products have all the parking interior to the building to preserve the beautiful three-sided architecture. Those extra parking spaces will be in the enclosed garages or in driveways. Commissioner Doug Clifford inquired about the term motorcourt? Jerry Miyahara stated it is a design element that allows you to turn the garage entries and doors into the interior. So you don't just see garage frontages. Commissioner Pam Gardiol inquired on the motorcourts she went out to Desert Color and she was appalled at the trash cans and desolation in the middle. How will it not look like Desert Color? Bob Hermansen stated he is with Bush and Gudgell and Desert Color does not have a motorcourt product. What we are describing is there is no exterior. Desert Color has a two-sided exterior and on the other side you can see trash enclosures. This is an entirely different product. There development is half of what Jerry Miyahara is presenting. These are fully enclosed. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated there were driveways adjacent to the house and a parking lot in the middle. Bob Hermansen stated here, you park in the building. There is nothing exposed. Jerry Miyahara stated there is no parking in that interior courtyard. Commissioner Perry Brown inquired that if we have the parking on ground level, are there also units on the ground level? Jerry Miyahara stated yes. Commissioner Perry Brown inquired if they are proposing a wall or screening along Hamblin Parkway where people won't be able to see Tuacahn Wash and the open space there? Jerry Miyahara stated these triplex townhomes products will have walls and yards. The other section is just landscaping. There will be a perimeter wall along Hamblin Parkway per Ivins Code and design. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated that the narrative lists seven items that are for the people residing within this development. She comes back to the General Plan elements of maintaining a strong sense of place and visual identity for the City. How are they melding those together? Jerry Miyahara stated that we are focused on the General Plan and goals. There are going to be General Plan goals that fit more specifically to projects. The breadth of those goals are pretty wide. The application to this project meets Goal 4 resort destination community with the following supporting objectives: Attract businesses and developments that can serve tourism, encourage housing options, cater to tourism, encouraging businesses and activities that promote health and fitness, including spas and recreational opportunities, develop, maintain and enhance walking, bike trails; and develop additional outdoor recreational infrastructure. General Plan Goal 3 economic development. Attract and sustain businesses that will provide opportunity for Ivins city residents and enhance its tax base. General Plan Goal 7 is residential to allow for a variety of housing types and attractive functional neighborhoods to meet the needs of various income levels. General Plan Goal 2 natural settings. Preserve the natural settings and vistas that give Ivins City its unique identity, including the red mountain and other natural hillsides that surround the city, the natural washes, open spaces and the night sky. Ultimately the land owner is SITLA. Their charter from the beginning is to raise funds for the school system in the State of Utah. General Plan Goal 11 is education. Support quality public schools, private schools, charter schools and higher education. These are all a direct fit. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated she lauds him for knowing those and keeping them in mind as they are developing this project. Any change that happens in this community becomes a part of the fabric and identity of the community. As you address those goals, will it still contribute to that sense of place? Jerry Miyahara there is a residential primary and secondary housing side with non-short-term rental units, and there is a shortage of housing in this area. On the resort side we are targeting visitors and with the protection of open space and continued vistas for this amazingly unique and beautiful area. It is challenging as the City grows and morphs. Black Desert Resort announcing a full LPGA event and a full PGA event will change the nature of this community. There is exposure to this area already. It will go way up. We are satisfying the needs of the community here. We are providing an economic base. Chairman Dave Robinson inquired does SITLA retain ownership of this, meaning will they gain funds from these nightly rentals in perpetuity? Jerry Miyahara stated yes. They get revenue on home sales and participate with the nightly rentals in perpetuity. Commissioner Perry Brown stated he is seeing this with a different light. He understands the rationale of the market change but markets go up and down. You are asking us to go with potentially the high point of an adverse market for you. The market changes. You crammed in as many units as you can possibly get in here and he is skeptical it is a resort. It doesn't have the open space a resort has. He is concerned about that. There is a massive increase of rental units from what was originally discussed. Chairman Dave Robinson stated it is only in effect half a resort because east of the highway is resort and the other side is not. Commissioner Perry Brown stated he is talking about just this side. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated they are privately owned and they have a choice of whether or not to rent. It is a functioning residence so it is not quite as bad as you may think in that regard. There is very little in Ivins for people to have ownership in at a reasonable price. The road to Tuacahn has several subdivisions with smaller attractive homes that were affordable and the Mayor built a whole bunch of them. They are part-time or owned but they still have that ownership. The flexibility they will provide in this area will be attractive. Chairman Dave Robinson stated the square footage is the same. They aren't making any more money per square foot. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated traffic is the issue. These are however smaller size units and may not get the ratio you see in Arcadia. Chairman Dave Robinson stated 400 South is not a major thoroughfare for this in his opinion. If they go to town it is Hamblin Parkway. It will increase but not a huge increase. Commissioner Derek Larsen stated market conditions drive development. There is nothing to say if the market changes, that they can't come back to fit the market. Those options are out there. They addressed the concerns he had and it fits the land use and zoning. The definition of resort has changed with so many Air bnbs being built. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that he went to Desert Color and they are largely designed for big parties and gatherings. These are designed for a small group, families, not 4-5 families. This is a unique concept with smaller units. These are almost like individual hotel units. These are a great size for a few people to come. If you don't think it is a resort, it is next door to a resort and they have all the big events going on. Commissioner Perry Brown stated we are dealing with a Conditional Use Permit what do we actually approve? Dale Coulam stated we start with a list of conditions that Staff puts together. You can recommend, change, add or delete some of those conditions. You can consider any potential adverse consequences of a development and put in reasonable conditions to mitigate those adverse conditions. The Preliminary Plan lays out how it develops. This is for the overall project on the east side, the resort portion of this project. You don't have to decide this tonight. You have had public comment. If you have pause and want to think about it for a couple weeks or if you want to do some homework and come back that's fine. If you are comfortable, you can make minor changes tonight. The narrative is what the applicant provided. The specific conditions were created by Staff and have standard conditions and the specific conditions were about things like traffic and infrastructure. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated that all along she has had in mind the sense of place and how it integrates in the community. She would feel more comfortable to have time to think about listing any other conditions before voting. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that there are no other conditions they haven't covered. It was a thorough presentation. Commissioner Pam Gardiol moved to table. No second. Motion dies. Jerry Miyahara stated that in the grading section of the conditions, we are working with Chuck Gillette. Dale Coulam stated if this moves forward, it would need to be amended. Matt Ence stated just to understand the intent of the condition it says no grading outside of a phase, but in order for grading to be done properly, dirt may be moved outside of a boundary line. As long as you see that flexibility. Dale Coulam stated if you are recommending, you have time before City Council meeting, a two week interval for them to clarify that further with City Council.
MOTION: Commissioner Doug Clifford moved to approve recommendation on a proposed Class V Conditional Use Permit. Located at approximately Puerto Drive and 400 South, east side of the future Hamblin Parkway. SITLA-Owner. EWD, LLC/Jerry Miyahara-Applicant.
SECOND: Commissioner Derek Larsen
VOTE: The motion carried.
| Chairman Dave Robinson |
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| Commissioner Doug Clifford |
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| Commissioner Derek Larsen |
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| Commissioner Pam Gardiol |
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| Commissioner Perry Brown |
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Chairman Dave Robinson stated that regarding supporting existing resorts, we don't have a plan for any more resorts but we have established a resort community and what the old General Plan was based around. We are here to support them as businesses. We don't mean to leave out any businesses with that statement. We didn't name any one resort in that statement, but we are supporting what we have created in Ivins. He gets that people need more time. We have worked on this Plan for months and had meeting after meeting that are all open to the public for people to be here. People should have been involved if they wanted to be along the way. They don't have to come in . They are live online. He personally has really advocated for more notice and ways to do it. Times have changed. Advertising in the paper is not the way to go anymore, the bills are all automatic and he doesn't look at them. What are the other ways to get information out there? A lot of people have had the opportunity and most didn't take it. If we can find other ways to notice people, we should do it. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated the last time the Commission met there were three of us here. Thank you for your kind comments on the work we have put in. It has been a labor of love because we care passionately about this community. We don't sit up here otherwise. We have spent hours and hours on this document. The last time we received input from another Commissioner that we have not had a full quorum since to discuss the final document. This is still a draft. There are typographical errors in it. It is not ready to go to the Council. We need to look at it and finish it so that what we present to Council and the citizens is a complete document. This is a draft. Lisa Ganz and Sharon Gillespie made comments and edits and they have caught some of the things we have not yet wrapped up. We need to be present at the Council meeting when we are ready to present what we have done. We started by looking at the existing General Plan. We have honored much of that and organized it and made it more user-friendly to get where they want to go in the document and Staff recommends developers to review the General Plan. She recommends they spend one more meeting going over all of it and feel that we have wrapped it up. Democracy is not a spectator sport. As citizens she honors that you are asking for more time. Every iteration of this document with everyone's comments have been included on every agenda we have had. Dale Coulam stated if you make substantial modifications to the document, then you should hold another Public Hearing on your complete document. If you make minor changes to correct typos, you are not legally required to hold another Public Hearing, but it would be good form to do so. Commissioner Perry Brown stated thank you for the comments made and there has been a lot of work and progress made. He did not come to the meeting anticipating this was the end of the process. There are several comments in red to still be discussed. We wanted input and we got it. It will be longer on the process and look at the things that we didn't resolve ourselves. We have not completed editing. This is not the end of the process. We have things we will use from the input we have heard tonight. Councilmember Mike Scott listed all our names and emails and asked citizens to make comments to us directly. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated that it is bloated. It still says the same things in five different ways. It is not concise. Writers all have a style that comes through and that shows up in the document in spades as we have all put in. It is not smooth and has a tremendous amount of overlap. It is not clean. We are not going to pass it, but people want to look at it and make input. Now you will get five hundred styles instead of five. We don't want that, but we solicit substantive feedback on the content on what is in the sections in the plan. Take out any confusion and make it clean. We need to remember we are still dealing with a document that is not a binding document. It is a vision and is not cast in stone. This Plan gives us direction. He would like to make it a goal to make it half the size it is. Commissioner Pam Gardiol stated that the feedback is that the Council and the Mayor are impatient to get this. We have been working with deliberate speed on this. This is a rough draft and we will continue to work on it. We researched formats on General Plans and other communities have measurements. It is in the form but we have not gotten there. You have time to review because we still have work to do. Chairman Dave Robinson stated he would like to see the City get this into more people's hands through push text notifications. 99% of people have cell phones. They can send out a link to the website. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated it is already on the website. People can find that. Chairman Dave Robinson stated that what we are dealing with are the people that just don't know. We need to see that fixed. Commissioner Doug Clifford stated the Mayor can write a statement in the next newsletter asking for General Plan comment. We are not legitimizing NextDoor for commentary.
MOTION: Commissioner Derek Larsen moved to table Discuss and consider recommendation on proposed amendments to the Ivins City General Plan.
SECOND: Commissioner Pam Gardiol
VOTE: The motion carried unanimously.
| Chairman Dave Robinson |
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| Commissioner Doug Clifford |
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| Commissioner Derek Larsen |
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| Commissioner Pam Gardiol |
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| Commissioner Perry Brown |
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